Thomas A. Shannon, Assistant Secretary of State for
Western Hemisphere Affairs; Daniel S. Sullivan, Assistant
Secretary, Bureau of Economic, Energy and Business; and Craig
Kelly, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary
Foreign Press Center Briefing
Washington, DC
December 8, 2008
MODERATOR: Good morning. Welcome to the Washington Foreign
Press Center. Today, we have with us Assistant Secretary
of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Thomas A. Shannon,
and Assistant Secretary in the Bureau of Economic, Energy
and Business Affairs Daniel S. Sullivan, along with Principal
Deputy Assistant Secretary Craig Kelly. They’re here
to talk to you today about the Pathways to Prosperity in
the Americas initiative – ministerial , sorry, in
Panama, December 10th, 2008.
We’re going to start off with Assistant Secretary
Shannon, then we’ll go to Assistant Secretary Sullivan
and Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary Kelly, and we’ll
take your questions. Thanks.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Good morning. Thank you all
very much for being here. As noted, the Pathways to Prosperity
ministerial meeting will be taking place in Panama City,
Panama, on December 10, hosted by Vice President and Foreign
Minister Samuel Lewis of Panama. We’re very grateful
to the Panamanians for their hospitality and looking forward
to this ministerial. As you know, the ministerial is a result
of the launch of the Pathways to Prosperity initiative in
September in New York on the margins of the UN General Assembly
when President Bush met with leaders of our free trade partners
to talk about ways in which we can begin to consolidate
the free trade accomplishments of the hemisphere over the
past eight years and look for ways to accentuate the positive
aspects of trade but also ameliorate the negative aspects
of trade, and ensure that our trade policies and our development
policies, both economic and social development, are linked.
From our point of view, what the Bush Administration has
accomplished over the past eight years in our free trade
agenda in the Americas is significant. We’ve concluded
over ten free trade agreements in the region. And when you
combine that with our NAFTA partners, we have 12 free trade
partners that stretch from Canada to the tip of Chile, all
with the exception of the Dominican Republic along the Pacific
coast looking across the Pacific to the dynamic economies
of Asia, and effectively laying the groundwork for a larger
American-Asian free trade area.
We also believe that the Pathways to Prosperity initiative,
aside from doing the things that I had mentioned earlier,
also is an effort to open a larger dialogue with other countries
in the region that are open to trade and globalization.
As President Bush noted in New York, the Pathways to Prosperity
initiative is not an exclusive arrangement; on the contrary,
it is inclusive. And in this ministerial, we are reaching
beyond our free trade partners and have invited a variety
of regional organizations, development banks, and significant
trading partners such as Uruguay and Brazil.
And we believe that, as we look forward beyond this ministerial,
that we have created a forum in which countries committed
to trade and recognizing the role that trade plays in economic
and social development, economic growth, and strengthening
ties between countries, we’ll be able to discuss the
broader aspects of our economic and social development agendas
and the important role that trade plays.
We’re very lucky to have with us today Assistant
Secretary Dan Sullivan, who’s been one of the driving
forces behind the Pathways to Prosperity initiative, and
can talk to you about the specific pillars of that initiative,
especially in relationship to how trade links to our broader
development agenda, but also how we see this developing
over time. And also Ambassador Craig Kelly, the Principal
Deputy Assistant Secretary in the Bureau of Western Hemisphere
Affairs, who has played a very important role in the diplomacy
of Pathways and ensuring that this initiative is indeed
understood as an inclusive initiative designed to create
a forum in which all countries in the region who are committed
to open trade and economic growth and development can meet
and talk about the broader aspects of trade.
Thank you very much. Dan.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Thank you, Tom. I just want
to add a few additional words to what Tom had laid out as
how we see the ministerial developing in Panama on Wednesday.
But essentially, what we’re looking at doing is building
on kind of the next steps from this initiative. And hopefully,
you have a handout there of the leaders’ communiqué
that launched this initiative. And take a look at that again,
because one of the things that happened, as Tom mentioned
was launched on the margins of the UN General Assembly meetings,
also kind of in the wake of a lot of what was going on with
regard to the financial crisis. But we see this as an extremely
important initiative. And when you get these leaders together,
which they did, to agree to taking the steps that they did
in that initiative, which is, again, why we wanted to have
that communiqué at your disposal to take another
look at it, we think that this has significant potential.
Both Tom and I were actually in the leaders meeting with
Secretary Rice, Secretary Gutierrez, Ambassador Sue Schwab,
and I can tell you that that meeting, there was significant
enthusiasm for doing this, that this was a logical next
step to build on what has been, as Tom mentioned, really
an historic achievement over the last several years, not
only under this President but the last two presidents before
President Bush.
And so – and the key, the key if you look at that
communiqué, is to focus on how our citizens can better
take advantage of what has been the significant achievement
in free trade agreements that we’ve had over the last
several years.
So what we want to do – what we want to look to accomplish
at the ministerial, which will have a very good representation
of foreign ministers, trade ministers, economic ministers
from all these countries, is to look at ways to build upon
what the leaders agreed to, particularly focusing, if you
look at paragraph five, which are the key pillars of this
initiative, to provide some more details under which each
of these pillars we can move forward with regard to progress.
And so that’s what we’re going to be focusing
on. There’ll be a – we’re hoping to have
a ministerial action plan that will have some details that
really fit with these five pillars that are laid out in
the leaders’ communiqué.
We will also likely – clearly, the ministers will
be discussing elements of how the global financial challenges,
broader economic challenges can be addressed. One of the
things that we are looking to do is hopefully build on what
was achieved at the G-20 leaders summit on November 15th.
And there’s been a lot of other organizations that
have adopted what the G-20 leaders have done, and we think
that that might be another important component of the ministerial
in Panama.
Finally, I just want to say a word, because we get a lot
of questions on this issue, is with regard to the issue
of the transition. And looking at an initiative right now
that is launched in the final year of President Bush’s
Administration, how we see that playing out with –
obviously, we’re going through a transition in our
governments right now. And I think it’s important
to note that within the United States there is a very strong
bipartisan tradition of one administration working very
closely with the next, particularly on economic integration
initiatives, particularly with regard to this hemisphere.
So if you look at, whether it’s the end of President
Bush 41 term, with regard to NAFTA, with regard to the Uruguay
round, picked up by President Clinton, and not only picked
up but very much strongly promoted. President Clinton was
– his administration launched the FTAA, the U.S.-Chile
FTA negotiations. President Bush picked these up and focused
on these. So there’s a strong bipartisan tradition
on economic integration initiatives, particularly in the
hemisphere, that we think is an important element to remind
people as we look forward to moving forward on this.
And of course, Tom and I and others, working closely with
President-elect Obama’s transition team, have highlighted
this initiative as something that we think is quite important.
And it’s quite important when you see the leaders
of all – of so many countries in the hemisphere committing
to what they committed to at the original leaders meeting.
And again, you have that communiqué in front of you.
So we feel strongly and positively about this initiative,
not only within this administration but continuing to move
forward.
Craig Kelly will have some follow-on comments as well.
Craig.
AMBASSADOR KELLY: Just a couple of brief points before
we take your questions. As we went through the process of
negotiating free trade agreements with countries in our
region, there was an extraordinary spirit of cooperation
among those countries themselves. That is, once one country
had its free trade agreement, that country or those countries
then supported the others who were in the process of negotiating
their agreements and seeking congressional approval. That
spirit is part of what underlies the Pathways initiative,
this mutual support to try to further this process of integration
and using trade to help real people.
And secondly, the countries in the region believe strongly
that there is a very close connection between economic integration
and freer trade and poverty alleviation. In the very period
in which Chile has negotiated trade agreements with over
50 countries around the world, it has lowered its poverty
rate to under 14 percent. Countries in the region have taken
note of that extraordinary success, and Pathways is a way
to make that process more efficient in a group context as
a group initiative. Thank you.
MODERATOR: Okay. So we can take some questions. Let’s
start out here in the front.
QUESTION: I’m Pauline Jelinek of the Associated Press.
Thank you. Since part of the focus is broadening the sectors
that can benefit from the free trade agreements, would someone
talk a little specifically about who’s benefiting
now? Do you mean manufacturing sectors? Is it a certain
size or level of company? Just who benefits now, and then
what are the types of things that you can do to broaden
that to other sectors?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Yeah, Assistant Secretary
Sullivan will take that question.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Yeah, I – let me –
it’s a great question, and it’s – it’s
a question that we focused on when we were putting this
initiative together. And when I say we, I mean all the countries.
And I think what’s very natural is any time you have
a free trade agreement, the – and it’s not always
the case, but the companies, the manufacturers who are already
engaged in and familiar with international trade are the
ones that initially benefit, because they’re already
exporting, importing, and all of a sudden, you see tariffs
go much lower, go to zero. That benefits them immediately.
If, again, you look at the leaders’ communiqué,
what we are looking to do is try and broaden the category
of companies and individuals and farmers and small businesses
that benefit. And there’s a lot of ways that you can
do that. But if you look at – again, I know I keep
focusing on this, but if you look at the communiqué,
it talks about, in the first pillar, increased opportunities
for our citizens, particularly small businesses and farmers.
Okay? So this looks to try to broaden the opportunities,
particularly for those entities that have not traditionally
engaged in trade.
And so there’s a number of ways you can do that,
whether it’s through SME finance, through infrastructure
finance and development. And again, we’re trying to
– we will be looking at ways to provide additional
details to this broad action plan laid out by leaders. But
there has been a focus, as you mention, on assisting those
who haven’t traditionally had the opportunity or even
the knowledge to take advantage of what clearly has been
a significant achievement of lowering barriers over the
last several years with regard to hemisphere trade.
MODERATOR: Okay. Jordi.
QUESTION: Thanks. Jordi Zamora from AFP. You put the stress
on this bipartisan tradition, you said, between American
administrations towards free trade. Is it the fact that
there is a new Democratic administration coming in? Do you
think that it could be, itself, in jeopardy for this bipartisan
tradition, tradition on focusing on free trade?
And I have a second question for Mr. Shannon. I don’t
know if you – well, there’s a warship, a Russian
warship which is staying now in Panama, kind of precisely
when Secretary of State is coming. I don’t know if
you wanted to comment on that or if you just think that
it’s – it’s just casualidad*, as we say.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Yeah, let me – I mean,
your question – specifically, you had mentioned --
QUESTION: Do you think it’s in jeopardy, this bipartisan
tradition now?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: No.
QUESTION: You mentioned that there’s always been
a bipartisan tradition on focusing on advancing on free
trade.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: In the hemisphere in particular.
QUESTION: Yeah.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Do I think it’s in
jeopardy?
QUESTION: Yeah.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: No.
QUESTION: Can you comment, please?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Well, of course, this is
a decision for the incoming administration. And as I mentioned,
we – the transition – you probably have been
reading articles about it – going very smoothly, a
lot of continuous briefings between senior officials at
the State Department and other agencies and President-elect
Obama’s transition team.
But in answer to your question, I don’t think it
is. I think deepening economic integration, particularly
in this hemisphere, has been a bipartisan foreign policy
goal of the United States for decades. And that’s
because it’s in our interest and it’s because
it’s in the interest of our neighbors in the hemisphere,
and I don’t think that that longstanding U.S. foreign
policy goal is in jeopardy.
MODERATOR: Susan.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: And on the second question,
the United States has always supported free navigation of
international seas and waterways, so we see nothing unusual,
abnormal, or threatening about Russian vessels transiting
the Panama Canal.
QUESTION: Susan Cornwell with Reuters. In your conversations
with the transition team, though – the Obama transition
team, you’ve told them you think this initiative is
important. Do they think it’s important? How can you
square what you just said about you don’t think this
is in jeopardy with the things that Obama has said? For
example, he doesn’t favor congressional approval of
the Colombia free trade agreement. He wants to renegotiate
part of NAFTA, I think the environmental and labor bit.
So how can you square that for us? Or do you think he –
maybe he’s going to change his mind on that?
The other question I had is why are you all inviting Uruguay
and Brazil? What are you hoping to accomplish there? Thank
you.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SULLIVAN: Well, again, I don’t
want to make this about speculating over the focus or the
– where the next administration will move forward.
What I do want, though, you to focus on is to look again
– as I mentioned, paragraph five of this leaders’
communiqué.
Those five pillars, we view, we think are very much a agenda
that would have broad bipartisan support not only –
this is important – not only in the United States
but throughout the hemisphere. Remember this is an initiative
agreed to by the leaders of 12 countries. And so we think
that that agenda is laid out in the leaders’ communiqué
as something that could have broad bipartisan support in
all the countries with whom we have free trade agreements,
and including our own country.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: I’d like to underscore
the fact that this is an initiative among free trade partners,
which we are now hoping to expand to others who are interested.
This is not just a U.S. initiative. In other words, it’s
important, I think, for all of us to recognize that what
this initiative signals is that the region is saying –
that our partners are saying that they believe in free trade,
they support free trade, and they understand the linkage
between open markets and trade to economic growth and economic
and social development.
In regard to the other invitations issued by the Panamanians,
the idea was to be as inclusive as possible, and invitations
were extended to regional groupings like the Andean Community
and CARICOM, to multilateral development banks like the
Inter-American Development Bank and the World Bank, and
also to countries that have committed themselves to trade
openings such as Brazil and Uruguay.
Because ultimately, as President Bush noted in New York,
the purpose here is not to divide the region. The purpose
is to unite it around a very important economic tool, which
is trade, and to understand how our societies, through dialogue,
through exchange of best practices, can understand the steps
that we all need to be taking in regard to labor, in regard
to the environment, in regard to education, in order to
ensure that the benefits of trade are widely spread, that
they’re available to the poorest and most vulnerable
members of our community, and that they play a role in generating
a prosperity that is shared.
MODERATOR: Betty.
QUESTION: Thank you. Betty Brannan, La Prensa of Panama.
I have a lot of questions, but I’ll try and keep them
to a minimum here. How do you respond to the idea that this
is really a diluted – a very weakly diluted or strongly
diluted, depending on your metaphor, version of the FTAA
that the government – the Bush Administration has
had to give up on? Why Pathways to Prosperity? It’s
such an awkward name. I mean, can’t we call it the
Pathways countries or something? It’s very clumsy.
I’m looking for something that I can use to refer
to these countries, like the G-11 or the WH-11 or something.
And more about the nuts and bolts of this conference; it’s
only a one-day conference? Who exactly is coming? I mean,
Uruguay and Brazil was invited, but are they coming? And
finally, what’s happening with the Panama FTA? How
do you look at that?
AMBASSADOR KELLY: Should I go ahead?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Sure.
AMBASSADOR KELLY: In terms of the name, we chose a name
that emphasized inclusion and the fact that this was an
initiative moving forward. If you create a name that implies
that there is a set group, that would undermine the principle
behind this, which, as several of the leaders said on September
24th, is all about inclusion. So we chose a name that suggested
movement forward and a process.
In terms of attendance, the Panamanians, as Assistant Secretary
Shannon mentioned, have invited several groupings. They’ve
also invited Trinidad and Tobago as the host of the upcoming
Summit of the Americas to show that this is an initiative
which is also very complementary to other processes. We
are, to a certain degree, inspired by, you know, what the
Europeans call variable geometry, that many different groupings
can exist in the hemisphere that complement each other,
that have laudable missions but slightly different missions.
And therefore, we – this is a grouping and a term
which would suggest movement forward and inclusion.
In terms of who is coming, I would refer you to the Panamanians
as the host. But they have extended these invitations, and
the response has been very, very enthusiastic. Most of the
foreign and trade ministers of the member countries will
be there.
MODERATOR: Okay. Nestor in the back.
QUESTION: Nestor Ikeda, an Associated Press reporter for
Latin America. I have a question for Mr. Shannon. And you
said that this Pathway initiative is an initiative between
FTA partners, but in the group is not – Nicaragua
is not present. And some –
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Actually, Nicaragua was invited.
It was invited to the presidential meeting in September,
and it’s invited to the ministerial.
QUESTION: Yes. And my question in regard to a kind of frustration
of the Bush Administration, and in this group, in one side
– well, Brazil and Argentina are not present. And
in the other side, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Venezuela.
So is this Bush Administration finishing with commercial
frustration with Argentina and Brazil, and political frustration
with Bolivia, Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Venezuela?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Actually, we think we’re
finishing strongly and not in a frustrating fashion. We
believe that, first of all, our ability to conclude ten
free trade agreements was historic. No other administration
has been able to do that in the Western Hemisphere up to
this point. And as I noted, these – with the exception
of the Dominican Republic, these free trade agreements are
all along the Pacific coast. They represent some of the
most dynamic and important economies in the region, and
they all connect easily across the Pacific. And I think
that’s an important signal for the future of this
region because we believe that the future is largely an
Asia-Pacific future, which I think is underscored by other
initiatives that have emerged recently, including the idea
of a transpacific free trade agreement.
But at the same time, while we have negotiated free trade
agreements, we’ve also worked very closely with other
partners in the hemisphere on Doha and other trade and commercial
– if not agreements, at least negotiations and issues.
We’ve been working with Uruguay on a step-by-step
process to expand our commercial agreement and work towards
some larger comprehensive agreement. We have, through our
Economic Partnership Dialogue with Brazil, pursued ways
to move forward our trade and commercial agenda in very
important areas like civil aviation and telecommunications
and infrastructure development, and also have begun important
dialogues between our textile sectors and discussions about
import safety and product safety.
In other words, I think that we have, even in a period
in which lack of movement on agricultural subsidies in the
Doha round has limited our ability to advance on FTAA, really
been able to build bit-by-bit a larger trade network in
the region, both through our FTAs and through our other
outreach and dialogues that really create a virtual network
that really, I think, hands to the next administration a
powerful tool, a powerful structure of trade agreements
and dialogues that can be taken up by the next administration
in pursuit of economic growth and prosperity.
MODERATOR: Sonia.
QUESTION: Thank you. Sonia Schott with Radio Valera Venezuela
and Selecta Panama. What kind of level of compromise do
you expect to reach in this ministerial meeting, considering
that not only the Bush Administration is in their last days,
also the Torrijos Administration is going to leave very
soon? So what can we expect in the long term in terms of
compromises? Thank you.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: By compromise, you mean commitments?
QUESTION: Commitments, yes.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Yeah, okay. Sorry. Well, this
is a moving, living thing, and it’s going to require
the goodwill of all parties to accomplish what we hope to
accomplish. But again, I think as noted, as Assistant Secretary
Sullivan noted, our commitment to integration in the hemisphere,
our commitment to economic growth, our commitment to use
trade as a tool to promote economic and social development,
to attack poverty, to attack inequality, and to attack social
exclusion, is not a partisan tool. It’s never been
a partisan tool. And as noted, different administrations
have always found ways across transitions to maintain important
trade initiatives. And it’s our hope that this will
continue with Pathways.
But ultimately, I think it’s important to understand
that one of the strong and enduring aspects of democracies
is that ultimately relations are not between governments;
they’re between states and between peoples and between
societies. And in this regard, I think we’re very
well positioned, because one thing that we have tried to
do over the past several years is to show that the relationship
between the United States and the region goes far beyond
the relationships of governments, and that ultimately our
job as governments is to facilitate the contacts that exist
between our societies, between our private sectors, between
our investors, between our trade union movements, between
our larger civil societies and our universities and our
faith-based institutions. And I think that if you were to
kind of strip away the overlay of governments, what you
would see beneath it in the Americas today is a very, very
vibrant network of connections linking all of our societies,
what Secretary Rice called an alliance of peoples. And ultimately,
this is one of the things we hope to be able to promote
and facilitate though the Pathways initiative.
MODERATOR: Gonzalo, last question.
QUESTION: Hi. Considering this might be Secretary Rice’s
last trip to the region, and if you could forget for a moment
your diplomatic background, what would be for you the highest
and lowest points in terms of achievements of these four
years in the region?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Well, that’s a big question,
and in many ways I would prefer to kind of leave the answer
to Secretary Rice herself. I don’t want to put words
into her mouth.
But when Secretary Rice came to the State Department, she
came building on the work of Secretary Powell. And the two
Secretaries combined have traveled more in the region, have
spent more time engaging in the region, than probably any
two Secretaries of State combined. And I think what has
happened in this period of time, and it’s a period
of dynamic and powerful change in the region, when new political
voices are emerging, new constituencies are emerging, countries
like Brazil are transforming themselves into major international
actors, and we’re addressing very specific and challenging
issues, such as the fight against organized crime in Mexico
and Central America.
And I think that what we have tried to do, first, is to
fashion a positive agenda in the hemisphere that recognizes
that our influence and our ability to have a meaningful
role in the hemisphere depends on our ability, first, to
understand the problems and challenges that our partners
face, and secondly, to help them resolve those problems
and challenges in a positive way, and to the extent possible,
try to make sure that relationships with the United States
are positive ones and not punitive ones.
Secondly, I think we have changed our vocabulary in order
to make it very clear that we understand the principal problems
that this region faces, especially the effort, as I mentioned
earlier, to overcome poverty, inequality, and social exclusion,
and to ensure that democracy can be seen as the revolutionary
force that it is, and a force that is capable of fashioning
societies in which individuals are seen as citizens not
only in a political sense, but also in a social and economic
sense.
And I think that we have also over time deepened our dialogue
in the region and expanded the way in which we relate to
the region. And this is true on the trade side. It’s
true on the security side, where we’ve expanded our
security dialogue far beyond the traditional dialogue of
security assistance and counternarcotics, to include how
states can better face the threat of organized crime, but
how they can also better face the security threats posed
by natural disasters, ecological disasters, and pandemics.
And in the process, we have created, I think, a network
of dialogue not only between traditional security institutions
but also between emergency management institutions, disease
control centers, and other public sector agencies that address
the management or response to emergencies. And I think that’s
significant.
And then finally, I think I would like to note –
and again, this is not an all-inclusive list. We can sit
down and go over this in great detail. But I think one thing
that Secretary Rice would point out is that we have walked
away from this idea of using political litmus tests to determine
who we address or who we work with. And our message, the
message of Secretary Rice and the President, has been that
we’re prepared to work with anyone in the region who
has a commitment to democracy and is prepared to work with
us. And I think that really has defined a new understanding
of partnership in the region, partnership among equals in
which we recognize that we have common agendas, forged not
only through our bilateral relationships but also through
our multilateral relationships, and that our commitment
to the inter-American system, to the OAS, to the IDB, but
also to the more informal aspects of that system such as
the Summit of the Americas, has really allowed us to have
a level of communication which is unique in our modern history
and really, again, has created, I believe, a strong platform
for the steps that the next administration will take.
MODERATOR: Thank you, Assistant Secretary Shannon, Assistant
Secretary Sullivan, and PDAS Kelly for coming. And with
that, we’ll leave it there, and I hope you guys have
a good day.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY SHANNON: Thank you all very much.